Metaphysical Mondays With... Eira and Daemon

In today's interview, I reached out to two different people on one of the Discord servers I frequent who I'd independently spoken to about their relationships with Loki that I thought would be interesting to get together with! Daemon is more of a veteran of polytheism, while Eira is very new to it, but how they interact with Loki and their family is sweet and lovely, and something that you don't read about online very often. And so I wanted to see what they had to say both to each other, and about Loki!

Hello to the both of you, thanks for agreeing to speak with me today! To begin with, would you please introduce yourselves, both to my readers and to one another?

Eira: Hi, I’m Eira, 45, and I go by she/her pronouns. I’m a pansexual, LGBTQIA+ parent, an intersectional feminist, a white settle on Turtle Island Treaty 6 Land, a writer, a textile artist and an environmentalist. I’m a fairly new (less than a year) devotee of Loki.

Daemon: I'm Daemon, 24 and my pronouns are he/him. I identify myself as a Lokean. I am primarily a Norse Pagan but I work with Celtic gods from time to time. I've got a lovely little family consisting of me, my partner Johnny, our kiddo who is an exuberant 4 year old, our 2 year old Cat named Hela, and our 3 year old ball python named Loki Jormungandr.

A+ names.

Daemon: My partner and I are LGBT+ and I am a trans dude, we both identify as queer, and our religious and spiritual beliefs are fairly aligned. I'm a painter and singer (Johnny is my guitarist and my muse) and together we make one entire artistic person lmfao.

I'm disabled, mentally and physically, and I have a history with mental health issues. I'm not the happiest about the physical disability part but I'm proud regardless and try to hold my head high.

Eira: I’m currently a stay at home mum; my family is my husband (skeptical of all things spiritual and witchy, but supportive), my elder teen son (who is trans & also a Lokisperson), my younger teen son (cynical like his Dad), and a goofy mutt named Suki. I am using a pseudonym and won’t use names to protect my minor children’s privacy.

Daemon: I'll just call mine 'Spawn'.

Absolutely! The safety of the children comes first and foremost, here. It’s really nice to hear you both talk about your kids, and how you and they interact with Loki together.

To back-pedal a little bit, how do you define yourselves spiritually? I know you’re both Lokeans, but what else is going on in the magic department? Do you work with any other entities or paths?

Eira: Hmmm, I think I’d define myself now as a Norse Polytheist and eclectic witch, but I’m still figuring out my path, with Loki’s guidance. I’m learning to rune cast and do a lot of pendulum dowsing to chat with Loki. I’m also a gardener and environmentalist, so I have an interest in green witchcraft and working from a bioregional perspective... for example, the traditional planting festivals arrive when we still have freezing temperatures where I’m living on the northern Prairies, so I am exploring timing my rituals by when certain leaves are opening or flowers are blooming instead. I also find kitchen witchery attractive. Eventually I’d also like to become a hedge witch and do more spirit work, but I have a lot of fundamentals to learn for my own safety before I’ll be ready.

Daemon: I call myself a Lokean Fire Witch. I do work with other deities outside of Loki, but I mainly work with him so that's the title I've chosen.

Eira: I think Loki is keeping the rest of the Norse pantheon at arms-length for both me and my eldest until we’re ready for the lessons They’d impart.

That was me at first, too. Loki wingmanned in, and then later on others turned up. Odin pretty quick, though.

What was your upbringing like, from a witchy or magical point of view?

Eira: So, my mom’s youngest sister died as a toddler, and that simultaneously made her family take solace in their church and become uber-Baptists while she, away at college, grieved by becoming very vocally atheist.

I’m really sorry to hear about that…

Eira: Aww, thanks! My dad and his family are lapsed Anglicans from the It’s Rude To Talk Religion school of thought. So I grew up with a much more secular and skeptical relationship to Christianity and all other spiritual traditions. I did the typical late-teen 80s-goth explorations of messing around with tarot and ouija boards and late night walks through cemeteries... and then I studied the sciences in university, and returned to a more skeptical way of thinking about things.

Did you find that coming at religion from a scientific approach made things trickier, or…?

Eira: Yes and no. I was probably harder to reach in the first place - Loki tells me he waited months for my son and me to become aware of his presence. On the other hand, the scientific method dictates that if your current hypothesis about how the universe works is disproven by the evidence, you update your hypothesis. Once you’ve physically experienced the presence of a deity, it’s much much harder to discard that data as subject to confirmation bias like other religious experiences, so… I had no choice but to open my mind to alternative explanations for my experiences.

Daemon: I grew up with Catholicism being predominant with my relatives. My mother though, she tried to change that for me but still didn't want to let me find what path was meant for me, instead I had Wicca shoved down my throat as the only acceptable form of craft and paganism. None of this stopped me from trying my own things, though.

That’s three for three beginning as Christians then, haha!

Eira, you already mentioned this but Daemon, do you work with any other entities or paths?

Daemon: Outside of Loki I also work with Fenrir, sometimes Hel, and occasionally Odin. I've been introducing myself to Thor recently, in the midst of carving a Mjolnir for him as an introductory offering. Brighid is another deity I sometimes work with, but the Celtic deities intimidate me so I keep a bit of a distance. I used to work with Hellenic and Kemetic deities but I think their roles in my life have come to a close and I'm in a new chapter now.

And how did both of you become “Lokeans”? (Or, if you don’t resonate with the term, why not?)

Daemon: Gods, I remember years back I was still actively working with Hades and Persephone, I started to feel this weird shift starting. I don't know why but I started looking around online and seeing if maybe I could figure out what was happening. I felt like I was being called but from a different direction, a different path. I open my Tumblr and I kid y’all not, the only thing in my timeline was Loki memes. That's it. I opened Instagram, nothing but Loki memes. I DIDN'T EVEN FOLLOW MARVEL PAGES. I DIDN'T FOLLOW NORSE PAGES EITHER. Just nothing but Loki, as far as the eye could see.

I’ve heard that from a lot of Lokeans. What are your thoughts on the theory that pop culture is a modern way for the gods to reach out to us?

Daemon: Tbh pop culture and paganism irks me. Just yesterday I met someone and we were discussing Norse paganism and they kept speaking over me telling me I'm wrong because of misinformation they read in pop culture nonsense. Then I had to say "listen dude, I'm in an online university for this crap, I know what I'm talking about" and he said "oh. Well tell me one thing, is Odin Loki’s dad?" and I facepalmed and said "no, no Loki and Odin are blood Brothers. Odin is NOT Loki’s dad. Not adopted dad, not blood dad, no."

The movies and pop culture stuff is fun to watch but people treat it like some sort of documentary and it feels so disrespectful, and for the info about the real religion to be flooded out by the more popular marvel related stuff is tiring. Sorry I ranted, this is a touchy subject for me that Loki loves to pick on me for.

Eira: Totally valid rant! My UPG is that one the one hand, the way the old stories have been twisted in pop culture is a source of frustration, but Loki is also very results-orientated, and seems to appreciate both the platform the movies provide and the casting of an actor who'